Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS)? Eternal Security? Perseverance of the Saints?
It is abundantly clear that one can lose salvation by the above bible truth!
Revelation 22:19 “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
You can’t be “taken away” from the “book of life” if you were not already in it. If that is not enough, how about these biblical truths below. We pray you come to the TRUTH.
10 And then shall many BE OFFEDNED (fall away), and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall DECEIVE MANY.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
And blessed is he, whosoever shall not BE OFFEDNED (fall away) in me.
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall (((FALL AWAY))), to renew them (((AGAIN))) unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God (((AFRESH))), and put him to an open shame.
1 timothy 4:1
1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall DEPART FROM THE FAITH, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared 2 with a hot iron.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a (((FALLING AWAY))) first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
***37 Scriptural Warnings about Falling Away and Obedience to God***
1 Tim. 5:8 –”If anyone does not…he has DENIED THE FAITH and is WORSE THAN AN UNBELIEVER.”
Luke 22:32 –”But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your FAITH WILL NOT FAIL.”
John 6:66 –”From this time many of His DISCIPLES TURNED BACK and no longer followed Him.”
Luke 8:13 –”They BELIEVE FOR A WHILE, but in the time of testing they FALLAWAY.” [See the parable of the sower Mat. 13:1-23]
Matt. 18:27,34,35 –”The servant’s master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go…. [Later]… In anger his master turned him over to the jailers until he should pay back all he owed. This is how My heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother from the heart.”
1 Tim. 1:19 –”Some have REJECTED these things and so have SHIPWRECKED their faith.” [These souls were once true believers, yet they fell not only violently, but finally; for ships once wrecked cannot be saved afterwards. This is an entire destruction of faith… as a ship is totally ruined that strikes on a rock and sinks.]
1 Tim. 6:10,21 –”Some people, eager for money, have WANDERED(ERRED) FROM THE FAITH…” [Απεπλανηθησαν· Have totally erred – have made a most fatal and ruinous departure from the religion of Christ.]
Heb. 6:4-6 –”It is impossible for those who have… SHARED IN THE HOLY SPIRIT… if they FALL AWAY, to be BROUGHT BACK to REPENTANCE…”
2 Peter 3:17 –”Be on your guard so that you may not be CARRIED AWAY BY ERROR OF LAWLESSNESS(SIN) men and FALL FROM YOUR SECURE POSITION.”
1 Tim. 4:16 –”Watch your life and doctrine closely. PERSEVERE in them, because IF YOU DO, (THEN)you will save both yourself and your hearers.”
2 Tim. 2:19 –”Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must TURN AWAY FROM WICKEDNESS.”
Titus 1:16 –”They claim to know God, but BY THEIR ACTIONS THEY DENY HIM.”
Rev. 3:16 –”Because you are LUKEWARM–neither hot nor cold I am about to spit you out of My mouth.”
1 Peter 3:12 –”The Lord is against those who DO EVIL.”
John 14:15 –”IF you love Me, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS.”
1 John 2:4 –”He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth(JESUS) is not in him. ”
1 John 3:6 –”Whosoever abideth in him SINNETH NOT: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.”
2 Thes. 1:8,9 –”Those who do not know God and do not obey… will be punished with everlasting destruction…”
Rev 3:1 “And unto the angel of the CHURCH(BELIEVERS) in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy WORKS, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
Rev 3:2 Be WATCHFUL, and STRENGTHEN the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy WORKS PERFECT before God.
Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou HAST RECEIVED AND HEARD, and HOLD FAST, and REPENT. IF therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
Rev 3:4 Thou hast a FEW NAMES even in Sardis which have NOT DEFILED THEIR GARMENTS; and THEY SHALL WALK WITH ME (JESUS) IN WHITE: FOR THEY ARE WORTHY.
Rev 3:5 HE THAT OVERCOMETH, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I(JESUS) WILL NOT BLOT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Rev 3:6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”
Matt. 5:8 –”Blessed are the PURE IN HEART for they will see God.”
Eph. 5:5,6 –”For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person… has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ… Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient.”
1 John 1:6 –”If we claim to have fellowship with Him yet walk in the darkness [sin], we lie…”
Luke 8:21 –”He [Jesus] replied, ‘My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and DO IT(CONTINUALLY). ”
Luke 11:28 –”He [Jesus] replied, ‘Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.'”
James 1:27 –”Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to KEEP HIMSELF UNSPOTTED from the world. ”
James 4:4 –”Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be A FRIEND OF THE WORLD is the ENEMY OF GOD.”
1 Thes. 1:9,10 –”For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God; 10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.”
Acts 26:20 –”But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do WORKS MEET FOR REPENTANCE.”
Heb. 10:26-31 “For IF WE SIN WILLFULLY AFTER THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THE KNOWLEDGE OF TRUTH, there remaineth NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SIN,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”
Matt. 7:20 – “Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.”
John 5:29 –”And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”
Matt. 13:41,42 –”The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”
1Jn 3:3 “And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1Jn 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1Jn 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Jn 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.”
According to the word of God NO ONE can pluck you out of His hands:
John 10:27 “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.
John 10:30 I and my Father are one.”
so, it is clear that another person cannot “MAKE” one fall away from Christ, it does not preclude however someone’s ability to walk away themselves, or their ability to be duped and err causing THEM to again need conversion to the truth. (James 5:19,20)
1. What does it take for a person to cease from abiding in the vine? What I mean is, just what does it take to “walk away”? What does the Bible say?
What you have done maybe unwittingly is fallen prey to the deadly doctrine of devils, the one point of Calvinism, “perseverance of the saints” the “P” in TULIP, otherwise known as Once Saved Always Saved. The bible lists many things one can do to turn from the truth. There is so much written about it I find it difficult to narrow down the amount of scriptures I could give for it. So I will give some O.T., some from Jesus, some from John, some from James, some from Paul, some from Luke, some from Jude.
I could also cite the early church (before 325 a.d.) as to what they taught and believed, Because they NEVER once taught OSAS, rather, they openly and plainly preached against it.
Using hermeneutics there is a principle called the “law of first mention” I will cite what God has declared from the beginning. This principle is to guide us into the truth and set precedent for how we are to understand and interpret the Bible.
Gen 3:4 “And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: (This is the first mention of OSAS in the Bible, it is a lie that worked then and works now. All forms of the security in sin doctrine also known as Once Saved Always Saved, or Eternal Security, or the Perseverance of the Saints (different names but they all mean the same thing), is a variation of this same false and damnable teaching from the serpent in the garden.”
What did it take for Adam and Eve to cease from abiding in the vine? The simple answer is; believing a lie. They believed like many do today and in the days of Noah that they would not die because they were secure in Him no matter what they did. They relied on the past to secure their future, God warned otherwise saying “Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat”.
“But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”
Eze 3:20 “Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.”
Eze 3:21 “Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.”
2Ch 15:2 “And he went out to meet Asa, and said unto him, Hear ye me, Asa, and all Judah and Benjamin; The LORD is with you, while ye be with him; and IF YE SEEK HIM, he will be found of you; but IF YE FORSAKE HIM, HE WILL FORSAKE YOU.”
Luk 8:13 “They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
THE PRODIGAL SON ALSO CLEARLY FELL AWAY AND WAS RENEWED BACK INTO RIGHT STANDING AFTER TRUE REPENTANCE
Luk 15:18 “I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I HAVE SINNED AGAINST HEAVEN, and before thee,”
The son seemed to know he ceased abiding in the vine!
The scripture clearly shows he was dead and was made alive again. This is a picture of Christians who “cease to abide” and are found again in this life and renewed unto repentance.
Luk 15:24 “For this MY SON WAS DEAD, and is ALIVE AGAIN; he was LOST, and is FOUND. And they began to be merry.”
Luk 15:32 “It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this THY BROTHER WAS DEAD, and is ALIVE AGAIN; and WAS LOST, and is found.”
The son ceased to abide when he believed he could live his own life apart from his father, in other words, when he believed he didn’t have to abide.
Joh 15:5 “I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.”
Joh 15:6 “If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered (physical death); and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned (the second death, spiritual death in Hell and the Lake of fire).”
“YE ARE THE…BRANCHES” Not your works, not your future rewards, YE are! “If a man” who is portrayed by the “branches” does not abide, what happens to him? HE is cast forth AS a branch. Since the bible does not classify plants as living or “having life” like many of us do, it does not refer to a plant as dying, rather it uses the words “fade, fade away, or withered” which gives a clear picture of natural death. (James 2:26 Mat. 10:28, Heb. 9:27) Men gather them (BRANCHES) and they are (what are “they”? the BRANCHES) burned.
This, contrary to OSAS deceiving teachers, is not speaking of the world. This was spoken to the Disciples, 11 of them after Judas left to betray him at the last supper. He is warning those disciples to not only remain in Him, but also to teach this to the church(BELIEVERS). He also is not referring here to what Judas did “as an unbeliever” for you cannot have it both ways, either Judas at one time believed and fell away as prophesied or he never knew Jesus and Jesus “never knew Him”. He was known by him and did miracles in Jesus’ name, he preached the gospel, cast out devils, and was so outwardly righteous that the disciples suspected themselves as being the betrayer before they thought of Judas.
Jas 5:19 “Brethren, IF ANY OF YOU DO ERR FROM THE TRUTH, and one convert him; (it is possible for brethren to err from the truth)”
Jas 5:20 “Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.“
Erring from the truth will separate you from the life that is found in the truth. This is addressed to the unbeliever? NO! To the “Brethren;” that brethren who errs is now counted as a sinner (Because error in doctrine leads to sin [which separates us from God, always has always will ISA. 59:2] like in OSAS) that is in need of conversion. What is at stake? His rewards? NO! It is not his rewards that will be saved but his SOUL from eternal death.
Speaking of the nation of Israel and contrasting God’s severity in cutting them off from him and giving to them the means of salvation, that is Jesus Christ crucified because of sin, received at repentance (godly repentance that leads to a holy life and a deep sorrow for sin one has committed against God) Paul speaks here of the danger of pride in thinking, like the Jews did, that they can sin and still be God’s people.
Rom 11:20 “Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.”
He warns us to fear, like Jesus many times did, THE POLAR OPPOSITE of the secure in sin false gospel. OSAS says we don’t have to fear; instead we only need be in awe. Did Jesus say be in “awe” of the one who can throw both soul and body in Hell? The OSAS need to correct Jesus right here, saying we don’t need to fear Jesus, don’t you know that once you saved me I am always yours no matter what I do? Don’t you know when you look at me you only see yourself? (Read Rev. 2, 3 to dispel that myth) What happens to the goodness of God that Christ showed us in saving us if we return to the vomit of our old life or the mire of the sin he cleansed us from? We shall be cut off! He is using personal singular pronouns here, not speaking to the whole of the “gentile nation” or the gentiles who are unbelievers. He is speaking specifically to the reader, the believer, here using words like “thee” not “ye” and “thou” as opposed to “you” which is used in the singular OR the plural. These far from being “mental gymnastics” are English grammar and are used to help understand the WORD, which is to be understood, Jesus who IS the Word.
1Ti 1:19 “Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:”
Some having put away their good conscience which comes with obeying God and the faith which is necessary for salvation. Shipwrecked faith cannot save anymore than a shipwreck can take you on a pleasure cruise. Was it a ship that could have brought you all the way home? It could have if it was not wrecked. It once sailed above the deadly waters but at some point lost its way and crashed on the deadly rocks of error and sin. Like Peter it once had mastery over the waters and raging seas but when it counted the storm as greater than the one that makes the seas to obey Him it foundered and sunk. It started with believing a lie. Like once afloat always afloat.
Note: Paul knew that Timothy’s saving faith could become shipwrecked, as Hymenaeus and Alexander’s faith did, and told him what to do to prevent this from happening to himself. The implications of that are: (a) A Christian has free will and human responsibilities under “grace” that can affect our salvation. (b) A Christian cannot just throw off all holy restraints and be negligent. For him to think that since he has been sealed by the Holy Spirit he is eternally secure or that God will continue to hold on to him, even if he lets go of God, is fallacious!
Jud 1:4 “For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. Tit 1:16 They profess that they know God; (these are the OSAS professors who tell you they are saved and secure) but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.”
These are those who teach that if you hear someone tell you to obey God they are teaching a false salvation by works or are legalistic. They in effect teach that their disobedience is proof of their faith while the obedient are reprobates for fearing God and hearing is voice and following Him. They teach that to obey is impossible, even though Jesus promised his yoke is easy and his burden is light. It is the disobedient Pharisees that put the burden of impossibility of obeying God’s word while appearing to be righteous on the outside. Mat. 23 How we can recognize these pharisees and those who become twofold children of Hell are those who turn people from God’s ways of holiness pureness and righteousness under the pretense of grace. With good words and fair speeches they deceive the simple, this explains mega Churches in this country without revivals. If there were EVER that many Christians, true Christians in one location there could not help but be a revival. But the bible doesn’t speak of revivals in these last days but of widespread apostasy. It s true God will pour out His Spirit on those who obey Him for the Holy Ghost is a gift to those who obey Him.
Act 5:32 “And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.”
Jud 1:5 “I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.”
The Children of Israel is a well known picture of salvation, being delivered from bondage and sin, but many grumbled and complained and rose up to play wanting their best life now nor were they satisfied with the Bread of life they were given, they saw his salvation were baptized and yet many fell, some were swallowed into Hell alive. These were an example to all those who would here after LIVE ungodly.
Mat 28:18 “And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.”
Mat 28:19 “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
Mat 28:20 “Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
This is clearly NOT the gospel of OSAS, which does not teach to “observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you” but calls anyone who does a false teacher of a “works based salvation” gospel, or a legalistic Pharisee. We are saved by grace through faith and not that of ourselves so that no man can boast. If I have ever seen any boast it is those who think they can sin and go to heaven claiming they are the elect. Which means that they could hardly be saved by faith, since they also teach that God regenerates you, then gives you faith. Those who preach OSAS are false preachers of a different gospel, they take the fear of God away through a false sense of security, a mark of all false religion including the Japanese who were taught if they give their life for the Emperor they would have a special place in Heaven. The Muslims who teach that the only way they can be assured of Heaven is to die a “martyr” (murderer). Then there are the Roman Catholics who taught if you died in a holy and just war you would be assured a place in paradise. Then comes along the Lutherans and Calvinists who taught a doctrine of holy war just like the Roman Catholics, only all they had to do was say a prayer and it was all over, you are done a place in Heaven is secure no matter what you do from then on.
Who knows how many people wind up in Hell believing OSAS but those who preach that demonic lie is assured of one thing, that is eternal torment, for they are liars who lead people astray into eternal horror. They are those who persecute the true believers and viciously attack them and their character, which lie about them, and separate themselves from them having not the Spirit, and call them heretics, when it is they who proclaim heresy as truth. Mat. 5:11, 1 Pet. 3:16, Luke 6:22,23
There is not a single verse in the bible that explicitly states that “present or future” sins are forgiven, NO WHERE! But there are two verses which specifically state that “past” and “old” sins are forgiven. One often violated rule of biblical interpretation is that the plain scripture must always interpret the more obscure. If there are scriptures in other words that speak of “past” sins being forgiven, you cannot read into any text a present or future forgiveness without scripture which is just as plain. In other words there would have to be one verse that says “we are forgiven of our past present and future sins”, There is no such verse in all of scripture. One CANNOT build a doctrine on an idea then find verses to make it fit. This is where all error finds its way into scripture and later becomes a doctrine (tradition handed down from the gnostics) that makes the word of God to none effect. Rom. 4:14, Matt. 7:13
Rom. 3:25 and 2 Peter 1:9 Where Peter shows that we cannot bear fruit and sin at the same time. The fruit being the proof of salvation, not the profession being proof but bearing of fruit that is brought to maturity in a Christian’s life. Speaking of Peter I promised a verses from Him as well.
2Pe 2:18 “For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, (Rom 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.) they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. “ (That is those who escape from those who teach OSAS)
2Pe 2:19 “While they promise them liberty, (As in “this is the true gospel,” OSAS) they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. (Sin is what brings one into bondage, it is what has always and will always separate one from God, this is exactly what the false OSAS “gospel” allows for.)”
2Pe 2:20 “For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ,(In other words, to use the limited vocabulary of the proponents of the false gospel, they were born again believers) they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. What is worse than never being saved? Having been saved and falling away!”
2Pe 2:21 “For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. (Those who obey the holy commandment are called legalists and Pharisees by these false teachers.” Note: Pharisees DID NOT OBEY GOD!)
2Pe 2:22 “But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.”
The only place OSAS can be said to exist in the bible (apart from Satan’s lie in the garden to deceive Eve through subtilty Gen 3:4) is where it is refuted by holy men of old like Jude. It is a Manichean, Augustinian, Gnostic heresy. Not taught nor supported in the Bible nor is it taught by the early Church. It is taught by the Roman Catholic “reformers” such as Luther and Calvin who admit they got their doctrine from the father of the Roman Catholic Church… Augustine.
The Bible is also clear on those who WILL NOT inherit the kingdom of God, that means go to Heaven.
Mat 18:32 “Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: (He was at one time forgiven, born again)
Mat 18:33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?
Mat 18:34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
Mat 18:35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.”
We must forgive all(in the biblical sense as unconditional forgiveness is not in the bible) if we hope to see heaven, and forgive as we have been forgiven, totally without any reserve or desire to see justice on that person.
1Co 6:9 “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”
No exception for a believer. Unlike what the false teachers who change the grace of God into a license to sin will tell you, grace does not mean we can continue to sin, it teaches the exact opposite.
Tit 2:11-12 “For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;”
This is true grace.
Eph 5:3 “But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words (THE OSAS lie): for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience (who are the children of disobedience? It is simple, those who disobey.) Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.”
The wrath of God is on ALL disobedience. If we could not be partakers with them this warning is a waste of breath. We can become partakers of not only their sin but can them be partakers in the wrath if we do not repent.
Gal 5:7-9 “Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth? Those who teach we don’t need to obey are those who would bewitch you with a lie from the Devil. What is this lie? You don’t need to obey the truth you are secure in your sin. You only have rewards to lose, don’t worry be happy. 8 This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you. Another way to say this might be Jesus did not say that because you are saved by faith that you don’t need to obey the truth. 9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.”
A little lie makes the truth a lie. It changes the true grace into a lascivious permission slip to indulge yourself instead of die to self, to love self over God and your neighbor, it turns brethren into wicked sinners in need of conversion. James 5:19,20 1 Cor. 5:11-13
Gal 5:16 “This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. :17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. :18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. :19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, :20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance (Variance 1. In law, an alteration of something formerly laid in a writ; 2. Any alteration or change of condition. Webster’s 1828 Dictionary.) , emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, :21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings (Partying, and the “Christian” rock and roll party type REV’EL, n. A feast with loose and noisy jollity. Websters 1828 Dictionary), and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
This is a clear description of the grace changers who change the conditions to unconditional. It is really an inconsistent universalism it that some are saved because God saved them from the beginning meaning their faith has nothing to do with salvation as they were already predestined to be saved and can never lose their salvation no matter what they do. Now that is a reason to boast, to have that kind of favor from God? But the Bible clearly says God is NO respecter of persons, saved or not we will be judged according to what we do not what we say. Luke 6:46, Mat. 25:34-46, Luke 13:27, Rev. 21:8
1Co 5:11 “But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer (a scoffer or insulter), or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 1Co 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.”
That person who does these things is not to be considered “saved” by Christians but are to be put away as a wicked person. No mention of “praying for him” or “showing him the love of Jesus” but of separation. This is the gospel, it is loving as God can and will work through our faith in obeying his word. We know he is longsuffering but we need to obey and not take the place of God’s Spirit in trying to redeem this person. We need to obey and believe in faith, not being a hearer only that deceives himself but being a faithful doer of the Word of God. Imagine if those who call themselves Christians actually start obeying the Word of God, what God could do in our midst.
Rev 3:5 “He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.”
(The clear implication being those who do not overcome sin and walk in victory over it in this life according to God’s true grace Tit. 2:11,12 will be blotted out of the book of life.)
Rev 19:8 “And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
Rev 3:15 I know thy works (do you see a mere “profession of faith” there?), that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. That doesn’t sound like loss of rewards to me.
Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: (No need to learn the truth for ourselves, our favorite pastor or leader has it all figured out already. I have commentaries that teach me all I want to know. WRETCHED Despicable; hatefully vile and contemptible. He was guilty of wretched ingratitude. Websters 1828 Dictionary. Blind -can’t see the truth; naked – not clothed in righteousness, which means they are in sin and in great danger of losing their eternal home in Heaven. Jesus however not wanting them to be lost pleads with them to:
Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. (Notice the turning away from sins to follow Jesus is His remedy?)
Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Those who hear His voice and follow him are those to whom he promises eternal life, if they will endure to the end.
Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Rev 3:22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. Notice it is the churches who are being addressed here.”
Verses to Rebut OSAS
Exodus 32:33…Blotted Out
Deuteronomy 29:20…Blotted Out
Deuteronomy 31:27…Stiff neck
Judges 2:19…Corrupted themselves
1 Samuel 7:3; 12:15…If
2 Samuel 3:39…Reward/Punish
1 Kings 1:52; 6:12… If
2 Kings 23:27…Cast off
1 Chronicles 28:9…If
2 Chronicles 30:9…Return
2 Chronicles 15:2…Forsake
Ezra 8:21…Fast & Seek
Job 23:11…His way have I kept
Psalm 50:22…You that forgot God
Psalm 69:28…Blotted Out
Proverbs 2:13… Leave
Proverbs 24:16…Rise Again
Proverbs 28:13…Confesses & Forsakes
Ecclesiastes 5:1-7…Breaking Vows to God
Song of Solomon 2:13…Arise & Come
Isaiah 29:20…Cut Off
Jeremiah 17:13…Forsake Me?
Obadiah 1:10…Cut Off
Jonah 3:10…Turned from
Nahum 2:13…Cut Off
Zephaniah 1:6…Turned back
Haggai 1:5…Consider your ways
Malachi 3:7…Gone Away
Matthew 21:43…Taken from you
Matthew 8:12…Cast Out
Mark 13:23…Be on your Guard
Luke 13:24…Strive to enter
Luke 8:13…Fall away
Luke 9:62…Looking back
John 6:66…Turn away
Romans 11:20-23…Broken off, Spare not, which fell, Cut off
Romans 13:14…Put On
1 Corinthians 6:18…Flee
1 Corinthians 10:12…Fall
1 Corinthians 16:13…Be on your Guard
2 Corinthians 5:9…Labor
Galatians 5:1…Stand fast
Ephesians 4:1…Walk Worthy
Ephesians 6:11…Put On
Philippians 3:14…Press On
Colossians 1:23…Continue & be not moved
Colossians 2:6…Walk, Continue
1 Thessalonians 1:3…Labor
2 Thessalonians 1:5…Counted Worthy
2 Thessalonians 3:9…Follow
1 Timothy 4:1…Depart
1 Timothy 6:12…Fight the good fight
2 Timothy 4:7…Finish the course
Titus 2:2,4,6…Be Sober
Philemon 1:6…Be Effective
Hebrews 10:38,39…Draw Back
Hebrews 12:1…Run the race
1 Peter 2:21…Follow
1 Peter 5:8…Be Sober/Vigilant
2 Peter 2:15…Gone Astray
2 Peter 3:17…Beware lest you fall from your own Steadfastness
1 John 2:24…Remain in You
1 John 2:28…Abide in him
2 John 1:9…Abide in Christ
3 John 1:4…Walk
3 John 1:11…Do
Revelation 2:10…Be Faithful
Revelation 3:11…Hold Fast
Revelation 3:16…Lukewarm? I will spit you Out!
Biblical examples of individuals who were once saved, but later fell away:
5. Saul: Who had a change of heart and received the Holy Spirit (1 Sam 10:9-13, 21-24), went into spiritualism (1 Sam 28, Lev 19:31, 20:6). He lost the Holy Spirit (1 Sam 16:12-23) and died a suicide cursed of God (1 Sam 31:1-6, 1 Chr 10:13-14).
6. Many disciples: Followed Jesus no more (Jn 6:66). They for awhile believed (Lk 8:13). They drew back to perdition (Heb 10:26-39). To receive Christ and confess him brings the new birth, so those who believed for awhile had grace to fall from (Jn 1:12, 1 Jn 5:1).
7. Judas: Was once saved because: he was the familiar friend of Jesus (Ps 41:9), The Hebrew word for friend is “batah”– to confide in as to be secure without fear! Used in this sense 107 times. Would Jesus call any unsaved man or devil, “Mine own familiar friend”? He was called to preach (Matt 10:7). He had part of the apostolic ministry and was an Apostle (Acts 1:16-20). He was sent forth as one of the twelve to represent Jesus among Israel (Matt 10:5-6). He had the Holy Spirit in him (Matt 10:19-20). Judas fell by sin from the ministry and apostleship (Acts 1:25). How could he do this if he was always a devil or unsaved man? Satan entered into Judas at the close of Jesus’ ministry, proving that he was not always an agent of the devil, much less the devil himself (Lk 22:3, Jn 13:2). He therefore, backslid, and then became a thief (Jn 12:6) a devil (Jn 6:70) and a betrayer. To make Judas the devil, a devil from the beginning, and an unsaved man separate from grace is to ignore the plain facts of scripture. He had eternal life one time, as proved from John 17:2 where we read of Jesus giving eternal life “to as many as thou hast given me”, then in John 17:12 it is stated that of “Those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them (That thou gavest me and to whom I have given eternal life Jn 17:2) is lost, but the son of perdition”. What could be more clear than this? That Judas was given eternal life, given to Jesus and Jesus had once given him salvation!
8. Ananias and Sapphira: Were saved and of one heart and one soul with all the church (Acts 4:32-5:1), until they agreed to lie to the Holy Ghost at which time they were killed (Acts 5:1-11). “Great grace was upon them all….”, including Ananias and Sapphira (Acts 4:33).
10. Hymenaeus & Alexander …1 Timothy 1:18-20
1Ti 1:18 “This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare;
1Ti 1:19 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having PUT AWAY concerning FAITH have made SHIPWRECK:
1Ti 1:20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; WHOM I HAVE DELIVERED UNTO SATAN, that they may learn not to blaspheme.”
11. Hymenaeus & Philetus…2 Timothy 2:16-18
2Ti 2:16 “But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
2Ti 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
2Ti 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.”
12. Demas…2 Timothy 4:10
Demas is honorably mentioned in Col 4:14 “Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you.” “Also, Demas was “Once my fellowlabourer” as clearly stated in Phm 1:24 “Marcus, Aristarchus, Demas, Lucas, my fellowlabourers.” Hath forsaken me below in 2 Timothy 4:10!
2Ti 4:10 “For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.”
Reasons why believers can fall according to the scriptures (John 12:48):
Lack of Repentance: Matthew 3:8-10/Mark 1:15/Luke 13:1-9/Revelation 3:14-22/Colossians 3:5-9
2 Corinthians 12:19-21 Corinthians 6:9-10/1 Corinthians 6:19-20
Having the heart for Christ (John 1:1): Hebrews 10:16/Romans 2:13-15/Matthew 13:3-23
Philippians 2:12/Hebrews 4:12
True Love: Matthew 22:37-40/1 John 5:1-3/1 John 3:18/Revelation 2:1-7
Liberty from the Holy Spirit: 2 Corinthians 3:17/Galatians 5:13-21
Knowing God: John 17:3/1 John 2:4
Being right by the grace of Christ: 1 Corinthians 15:1-4/Hebrews 12:15-17
2 Corinthians 6:1-2/Philippians 2:14-16
Disobedience=Unbelief: Hebrews 3:7-4:1-3/Ephesians 5:2-7/2 Timothy 3:8
Faith=Obedience- hearing God and doing His Word: John 15:14/Romans 1:5
Romans 15:18-19/Romans 16:25-26/Romans 10:17/John 8:47/Matthew 7:24-27
Defiled to God: Mark 7:21-23/Matthew 15:18-19/Revelation 3:1-6/Revelation 21:27/James 3:6-10
1 Corinthians 3:17-18
Fruit or lack thereof: Luke 3:8-10/John 15:1-2/Matthew 7:16-20/Hebrews 6:1-8/Romans 11:22
Holiness/Sanctification: 1 Thessalonians 4:3-8/Hebrews 12:11-14
Righteousness like Christ, in us: 1 John 3:7-8/Ezekiel 18:20-32/Romans 6:16-20/1 John 3:10
Willful sin, not fearing The Lord: Hebrews 10:26-29/Numbers 15:27-35/Hebrews 9:14
Psalm 19:9-14/Proverbs 1:22-33Psalm 51:10-12-Matthew 10:28
King Saul: 1 Samuel 10:5-9/1 Samuel 13:14/1 Samuel 15:15-23/1 Samuel 16:13-14/1 Samuel 19:10-11
1 John 2:9/1 Samuel 31:4/Revelation 21:8
Going back to sin: 2 Peter 2:20-22/Galatians 2:17-21/Acts 3:19
Coming Back through Repentance: Luke 15:11-32/2 Corinthians 7:1-10
Following Christ: John 10:27/Romans 8:1-13/Matthew 7:13-14
Excuses/Being Lukewarm: Matthew 22:1-14/Revelation 3:14-22
Truth in believing the Word (Christ): John 3:16-21/1 John 1:5-9/1 Peter 2:6-8
Beware of falling: Luke 11:24-26/1 Timothy 5:9-15/1 Timothy 4:1-4
God giving us something and us abusing it: Matthew 25:14-30,1 Corinthians 11:23-29
Children of Israel: 1 Corinthians 10:1-4/Exodus 14:30-31/Exodus 14:19/Exodus 19:5-6
Deut 5:27-33/Exodus 24:3/Exodus 32:8/Deut 9:14/Number 14:12/Isaiah 63:7-10
Exodus 32:32-33/Deut 30:1-20
Covenant Keeping: Proverbs 2:12-22/Ezekiel 16:19-23/1 Timothy 5:11-15
False Teachers who are fallen: Acts 20:28-30/2 Peter 2:1-15/Revelation 2:12-17/2 Peter 3:17-18
“Calvinists, who deny that salvation can ever be lost, reason on the subject in a marvelous way. They tell us, that no virgin’s lamp can go out; no promising harvest be choked with thorns; no branch in Christ can ever be cut off from unfruitfulness; no pardon can ever be forfeited, and no name blotted out of God’s book! They insist that no salt can ever lose its savor; nobody can ever “receive the grace of God in vain”; “bury his talents”; “neglect such great salvation”; trifle away “a day of grace”; “look back” after putting his hand to the gospel plow. Nobody can “grieve the Spirit” till He is “quenched,” and strives no more, nor “deny the Lord that bought them”; nor “bring upon themselves swift destruction.” Nobody, or body of believers, can ever get so lukewarm that Jesus will spew them out of His mouth.
They use reams of paper to argue that if one ever got lost he was never found. John 17:12; that if one falls, he never stood. Rom. 11:16-22 and Heb. 6:4-6; if one was ever “cast forth,” he was never in, and “if one ever withered,” he was never green. John 15:1-6; and that “if any man draws back,” it proves that he never had anything to draw back from. Heb. 10:38,39; that if one ever “falls away into spiritual darkness,” he was never enlightened. Heb 6:4-6; that if you “again get entangled in the pollutions of the world,” it shows that you never escaped. 2 Pet 2:20; that if you “put salvation away” you never had it to put away, and if you make shipwreck of faith, there was no ship of faith there!! In short they say: If you get it, you can’t lose it; and if you lose it you never had it. May God save us from accepting a doctrine, that must be defended by such fallacious reasoning!”
“It is an unscriptural and dangerous doctrine that there is any state of grace in this world from which we cannot fall.” -Samuel Logan Brengle
“What need is there of attacking sin with so much eagerness since, even in the Name of the Lord, I can not destroy it? And why should I resist it with so much watchfulness, since my eternal life and salvation are absolutely secured, and the most poisonous cup of iniquity can not destroy me, though I should drink of it every day for months or years? If ye fondly think that you can neither go backward into a sinful, cursed Egypt, nor yet go forward into a sinless, holy Canaan, how natural will it be for you to say, ‘Soul, take thy ease’, and rest awhile in this wilderness on the pillow of self-imputed perfection!” John Fletcher
“Notice how confusing and self-contradictory it is to tell the sinner to repent, to act, as though he were partially responsible for his own salvation, then tell him that, once saved, he is eternally secure. It implies that man has responsibility before conversion but none after. It means that a person has ability to get into the kingdom but none to get out. It gives the sinner a free moral agency, but denies it to Christians. A strange dilemma!” -Richard Taylor